Mr. Liebeler. Did you discuss with your wife the, after the assassination the, approximate time when you first met the Oswalds?

Mr. Paine. Yes, yes, we did. Or at least she had to report that to other people and I was listening in but I have forgotten the dates.

Mr. Liebeler. Did your wife meet the Oswalds at the same time?

Mr. Paine. No; she met them at a party that was held at a friend's house and we were invited to, both of us were invited to, go meet this couple who were represented as he having been an American who had defected to Russia, and came back with a Russian wife. I think I was sick or something and for some reason I couldn't go so I didn't meet him at that time.

Mr. Liebeler. Can you tell us approximately when that was?

Mr. Paine. It would be much more sensible to get all the exact dates from my wife but I think that was in February.

Mr. Liebeler. 1963?

Mr. Paine. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Now, after you first met Oswald, and we will go into the conversation that you had with him when you met him and after that more in detail to him before the Commission, when was the next time that you met him?

Mr. Paine. I don't think I met him again until he joined Marina at our house in September or the beginning of October, I guess it was.