Mr. Liebeler. Have you ever learned the identity of this third person?

Mr. Paine. No; I haven't.

Mr. Liebeler. Have you ever seen him again?

Mr. Paine. I think that is the last ACLU meeting I have been to. They convene very infrequently.

Mr. Liebeler. By that do you mean you have not seen this person again?

Mr. Paine. Therefore, I have not seen him again. I expect he is a registered member of the ACLU. I had the impression he was an ACLU member. He is rather softspoken, a quiet man.

Mr. Liebeler. Would you recognize him again if you saw him?

Mr. Paine. I probably would.

Mr. Liebeler. Have you discussed him with anybody else in the ACLU?

Mr. Paine. I joined Frank to the ACLU now.