Mr. Jenner. What did she say to you—is this a conclusion on your part that she referred back to the Soviet Union?
Mr. Mamantov. No—no—she said this way.
Mr. Jenner. It isn't a conclusion, if you put the words in her mouth, so you can go ahead.
Mr. Mamantov. No, she said the gun which he had in the Soviet Union, she didn't know how to say—she said, "This thing."
Mr. Jenner. The telescopic sight?
Mr. Mamantov. The telescopic sight—she pointed to it with her finger.
Mr. Jenner. Excuse me, did she say that the rifle or weapon, whatever it was he had in the Soviet Union—her recollection was it did not have a telescopic sight on it?
Mr. Mamantov. That's correct. She was asked if she had seen this part of the gun which he had in the garage in the blanket—this she said again—she said, "No; I have only seen one part of the gun, which was the end of the gun"—which part they asked her—I think I am calling it——
Mr. Jenner. The stock?
Mr. Mamantov. She pointed to the stock—correct—and then she was asked about the gun again and she said, "Dark brown-black."