Mr. Raigorodsky. Very much so a man of grace, a man of breeding.

Mr. Jenner. And did he begin to move in a different social circle?

Mr. Raigorodsky. An entirely different social circle.

Mr. Jenner. And was that a social circle of Russian emigre, a certain set of Russian emigre?

Mr. Raigorodsky. No, no, that's the thing which both churches have against them. He belonged to the church, but he never sent in a donation.

Mr. Jenner. He belonged to the church in the sense that when he felt like coming, he came, but he never supported the church financially?

Mr. Raigorodsky. No, that's right, from that point. Politically he never, and I can say honestly, not one time did he ever discuss with me any political questions or give me his views except one time when he went to take the trip—the walking trip.

Mr. Jenner. From the border of the United States and the Mexican border down to Panama?

Mr. Raigorodsky. Right.

Mr. Jenner. Tell us the incident that you are about to relate?