Mr. Belin. When was the second one?
Mrs. Gravitis. Approximately maybe 2 or 3 weeks. I don't remember exactly when Mrs. Paine came back from San Antonio.
Mr. Belin. This would be, say, June of 1963?
Mrs. Gravitis. Approximately. Before she went to New Orleans.
Mr. Belin. Have you ever talked to Marina Oswald since that time?
Mrs. Gravitis. No.
Mr. Belin. Have you ever talked to Mrs. Paine about either Marina Oswald or Lee Harvey Oswald since these conversations with Marina Oswald, or about that time? Have you ever since talked to Mrs. Paine about the Oswalds?
Mrs. Gravitis. Yes.
Mr. Belin. What did you say, and what did Mrs. Paine say?
Mrs. Gravitis. Mrs. Paine told me that Oswald obtained a job as a photographer in New Orleans, and now Marina can join him and go to New Orleans.