Mr. Belin. Did Mrs. Paine ever invite you over to the home to meet Marina Oswald or her husband?
Mrs. Gravitis. No; but she offered to bring Marina to our house. I mean, she didn't invite me to her own house, but offered to bring Marina to our house.
Mr. Belin. What did you say to that?
Mrs. Gravitis. She can bring Marina, but not her husband.
Mr. Belin. Why didn't you want her husband?
Mrs. Gravitis. Because he was using again this word, ideinyi. He was in the third stage of obtaining the Communist membership. Because I am afraid, and all of us are afraid that they are collecting some information on us and notifying their own people.
Mr. Belin. By the use of the word "they," who do you mean? Lee Harvey Oswald, Marina Oswald, or both, or some other person?
Mrs. Gravitis. Oswald—the people who are in this particular stage trying to get promotion. So they would spy on us. I had a fear.
Mr. Belin. Did you think or did you say anything to Mrs. Paine about whether Marina Oswald had anything to do with this group that might be trying to spy, or what have you?
Mrs. Gravitis. If I said to——