Mr. Belin. Is there any other information you can give about Lee Harvey Oswald or Marina Oswald that you feel might be helpful in any way?
Mrs. Gravitis. You mean personal opinion?
Mr. Belin. Go ahead.
Mrs. Gravitis. Mrs. Paine told me that Oswald—I did not know her last name, she always called her Marina and Lee—so Mrs. Paine told me that Lee wants to send his wife to the Soviet Union. I asked why. She said, "She was pregnant." And she said, "Lee said that he doesn't have money to pay doctor bills, but had enough money to send her back to the Soviet Union." I said that this isn't true. I was surprised, and I replied that this isn't true, because it is possible if a person doesn't have money, that medical help would be given for free here in the States. That is, Mrs. Paine was surprised if this could be true, that we could get local free help. I suggested to her to contact her personal physician and he will send Marina somewhere.
She said I will go on my way back from vacation and pick up Marina and bring her. And then when she got back, she called me again and said she is very happy for this suggestion, that Marina got free medical help, had another baby, and even the doctor offered with her dental work, and she said the treatment was excellent in the hospital. I was very surprised how Mrs. Paine didn't know, and Oswald being also an American didn't know that local help or local medical help is available to people who don't have money.
Mr. Belin. Did Mrs. Paine or Marina Oswald or anyone say anything more to you about Marina Oswald or Lee Harvey Oswald that you think should be noted here, that we should discuss?
Mrs. Gravitis. Maybe, but I don't remember right now.
Mr. Belin. Is there anything else that you care to add?
Mrs. Gravitis. Mrs. Paine told me that Lee is very bad husband, that he even hit her, Marina.
Mr. Belin. When did Mrs. Paine tell you this?