Mrs. Gravitis. When she went to pick up Marina in New Orleans. She said, "I have to go in person to pick her up because I cannot write her things like that, that Lee would read her letters and then would reprimand his wife."

Mr. Belin. Did she say whether Marina said that this had been different, that Lee had always been this way about hitting his wife, or was this something different that happened when they came to New Orleans?

Mrs. Gravitis. Marina did not tell me.

Mr. Belin. I mean Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. Gravitis. I didn't ask and she didn't say.

Mr. Belin. Is there any other information that you can think of that might be helpful here?

Mrs. Gravitis. Mrs. Paine was at our house the first of April of this year, 1964. I asked if she thought if Marina would know if Lee had intended to kill somebody, or President. And Mrs. Paine replied that she thought that Marina did not know. However, she felt that Marina knew that Oswald was in Mexico, but she didn't tell Marina.

Mr. Belin. What do you mean she didn't tell Marina?

Mrs. Gravitis. Excuse me, Marina didn't tell Mrs. Paine. Marina knew that Oswald was in Mexico, but about his being there, didn't tell Mrs. Paine.

Mr. Belin. Why do you feel that Mexico was very important?