Mr. Jenner. What was your understanding of the difficulties they were having?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Why was he physically beating her?

The difficulties were this: She was—just incompatibility. They were annoying each other, and she was all the time annoying him. Having had many wives, I could see his point of view. She was annoying him all the time—"Why don't you make some money?", why don't they have a car, why don't they have more dresses, look at everybody else living so well, and they are just miserable flunkeys. She was annoying him all the time. Poor guy was going out of his mind.

Mr. Jenner. And you and your wife were aware of this, were you?

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. And had discussed it——

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. We told her she should not annoy him—poor guy, he is doing his best. "Don't annoy him so much." And I think I mentioned before one annoying thing. She openly said he didn't see her physically—right in front of him. She said, "He sleeps with me just once a month, and I never get any satisfaction out of it." A rather crude and completely straightforward thing to say in front of relative strangers, as we were.

Mr. Jenner. Yes.

Mr. De Mohrenschildt. I didn't blame Lee for giving her a good whack on the eye. Once it was all right. But he also exaggerated. I think the discussions were purely on that basis—purely on a material basis, and on a sexual basis, those two things—which are pretty important.

Mr. Jenner. Yes; they are.