Mr. Blalock. He said that if you don't have the materials you need always available, you had to do without stuff.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he give any specific example of that?
Mr. Blalock. Gunpowder, high explosives.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you how to do without gunpowder in these activities?
Mr. Blalock. He told us how to derail a train without gunpowder.
Mr. Liebeler. What did he say about that?
Mr. Blalock. He said put a chain around the railroad track and lock it to the track with a lock.
Mr. Liebeler. And then when the train hit the chain it would derail the train?
Mr. Blalock. Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he say that he knew how to make gunpowder?