Mr. Blalock. Yes, sir; he told us the formula, and I—saltpeter and nitrate—some formula—I don't remember.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he say anything about guns?
Mr. Blalock. About zip guns, how to make them out of tubing and a plunger.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he say something to the effect that he knew all about guns?
Mr. Blalock. No; he told us he had a manual that explained all about guns, a Marine manual, and that he had training in guns, trained with guns.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember anything else that he said?
Mr. Blalock. Not right offhand.
Mr. Liebeler. Did he talk to Bringuier about helping Bringuier in this organization, or just what was the general context of this conversation? Was this just a general discussion of guerrilla warfare, or did it relate to the activities of Bringuier's anti-Castro organization? What can you remember?
Mr. Blalock. He just asked him about the anti-Castro organization and asked him to explain it to him, and he said he was interested in finding out how it operated. He didn't say he wanted to join it: He just said he was interested in it. Oh, and Bringuier gave him literature, a Cuban newspaper and leaflets or booklets.
Mr. Liebeler. Was there any discussion of politics?