Mr. Jenner. Did you speak with Marina?

Mr. Tobias. Yes; and she was an awful nice girl.

Mr. Jenner. She was?

Mr. Tobias. Yes; she was.

Mr. Jenner. Did she understand you when you spoke to her?

Mr. Tobias. Well, she was—would come out in her front yard—I sat in her front yard a lot and she would come out and bring the baby out and, of course, I think she could talk more English than what she put on she could, because he didn't want her to anyway.

Mr. Jenner. How do you know that?

Mr. Tobias. Because she told the wife that he didn't want her to learn it.

Mr. Jenner. Did she give any reason?

Mr. Tobias. Yes; she said people will be mean to her. She got acquainted with them. She got acquainted with them and she used to come over to the house and sit with the wife a lot and the wife would talk to her.