Mr. Jenner. That's of interest to us—she was able to communicate that whole idea to you in English?

Mr. Tobias. That's right.

Mr. Jenner. And did she speak some Russian then to this lady?

Mr. Tobias. No—after she told Mrs. Jurek she was Russian, that was it, because Mrs. Jurek didn't—she was Czech and she didn't know no Russian.

Mr. Jenner. I take it that Marina visited in your apartment rather frequently?

Mr. Tobias. Oh, she come over there very seldom—she came over there.

Mr. Jenner. Very seldom?

Mr. Tobias. Yes; she come over there a couple of times a week.

Mr. Jenner. She did come over that often, though?

Mr. Tobias. Yes; she would come over there and sit and the wife would talk to her, because my wife is a great hand to sew, and she would watch the wife and the little baby would play, but what burned me up—I'm a great lover of children, and when I tried to get next to that little baby sitting in a wheelchair——