Mr. Jenner. In a stroller?

Mr. Tobias. In a stroller and as I would walk up to it and try to talk to it, she just acted as if she was scared to death.

Mr. Jenner. Is that so—was that unusual?

Mr. Tobias. Well, it is to me.

Mr. Jenner. I mean, in your experience?

Mr. Tobias. Yes; because I haven't found a baby yet that I couldn't take over.

Mr. Jenner. Did you finally win the baby over?

Mr. Tobias. No—they didn't stay there that long. That's why he moved—he moved in that trailer, in that stroller.

Mr. Jenner. When was that?

Mr. Tobias. That was after—when he left my place. When he moved from my place up around the corner around a block and a half and he moved everything in that stroller.