Mr. Jenner. Would you describe these house shoes, please?
Mr. Shasteen. Well, yes; they were—I wish I could find something—they were a darker yellow than this right here [indicating]. And they had a much tanner sole on them—it was almost what you call a brown sole. It wasn't a leather, it wasn't a rubber, it was like a neoprene.
Mr. Jenner. The soles were darker than the uppers?
Mr. Shasteen. Yes.
Mr. Jenner. Were they firm leather, or soft or pliable?
Mr. Shasteen. They were soft and nice, but they were sturdy house shoes. Of course—like I said, I build a shoe up—one shoe and they made me notice them, and they were the type you could have built one up and they would still have stood up and been nice.
Mr. Jenner. Were these house shoes that had flat soles without heels?
Mr. Shasteen. Yes—they didn't have no heels—they may have had a little heel, but I mean they didn't have an extra heel, because I looked at them good. I mean, I wasn't interested in them until he said he got them from Old Mexico, and I knew that was out.
Mr. Jenner. Were they the pull-on type or lace type?
Mr. Shasteen. No; they were the—just the pull-on type.