Mr. Jenner. Did they have any type of elastic in them?
Mr. Shasteen. No—no elastic—they were just like loafers to a degree, only they were nice shoes—it was just a slip-on and they had a spur piece in the back.
Mr. Jenner. A spur piece?
Mr. Shasteen. You know what I mean—the back wasn't so flexible—it was firm—a fitted heel. They were just real nice.
Mr. Jenner. They had a reasonably firm or higher heel?
Mr. Shasteen. In other words—what I'm talking about—up on the back part of them.
Mr. Jenner. The back part is what I'm talking about.
Mr. Shasteen. Yes.
Mr. Jenner. What we call the heel of the shoe—the back of the shoe, not the heel you step on.
Mr. Shasteen. Yes—this part here and then they had a round thing, you know, like this here [indicating] only it went out and dropped down to a point out here and had a seam sewed around the top, whatever it was.