Mr. Jenner. Like a moccasin type?

Mr. Shasteen. Yes; they looked like a moccasin to a degree and these loafers, as you called them, but they were in between.

Mr. Jenner. Were they perfectly plain other than the moccasin sewing?

Mr. Shasteen. Yes; I believe they were—they didn't have no—that's the reason I thought they would have been from Mexico is they, if they had had a lot of trimmings on them or something like that, but they didn't have.

Mr. Jenner. Did they have fasteners of any type on them?

Mr. Shasteen. No; that's why I liked them. They were just something I could've jumped in.

Mr. Jenner. No metal fasteners?

Mr. Shasteen. They didn't have nothing.

Mr. Jenner. Or even leather fasteners?

Mr. Shasteen. If somebody would find them I would still give two and a half for them.