Mr. Pena. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. And did they come to your bar to ask you about this?
Mr. Pena. They come to my bar. They been calling me to come to the FBI office. That's why sometimes—one time I went down and got a lawyer. I don't need a lawyer about for this. I just tell you the truth. When I finish with him—you are from Washington. I tell you, Bringuier hates the United States as much as he hates Russia.
Mr. Liebeler. Bringuier does?
Mr. Pena. The day Mr. Kennedy put a blockade in Cuba—you remember, about a year and a half, more or less—Mr. Carlos Bringuier was telling me—excuse me—(obscenity) in Spanish more than a dozen times, and I couldn't stand that. I have never done anything against the United States. I said, "No." Anyway, anything you want to ask me—and you can ask Mr. Bringuier is that true or not, and let him and me take a lie detector test to see who is right on it.
Mr. Liebeler. You say that you have never done anything against the interests of the United States?
Mr. Pena. No; I have not ever.
Mr. Liebeler. Well, I have no reason whatsoever not to believe that statement, Mr. Pena.
Mr. Pena. Okay.
Mr. Liebeler. Why do you say that Mr. Bringuier hates the United States more than he does Russia?