Mr. Pena. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. If the visa stamp is the date that you left the Dominican Republic——

Mr. Pena. It would be 14 days before that. I went 1 week in Puerto Rico and 1 week in the Dominican Republic.

Mr. Liebeler. If the date on the stamp was the day you went into the Dominican Republic——

Mr. Pena. It would be 7 days before.

Mr. Liebeler. You are absolutely clear in your mind, however, that you were here in New Orleans on the day that Bringuier was arrested in connection with the propaganda demonstration on the street because you put up the bond to get him out. If I told you that that happened on August 9, 1963, that would indicate that you were here in New Orleans at that time and that you must have left some time subsequent to August 9, 1963?

Mr. Pena. I don't know. It might be another time, but the time I placed the bond for him, I was here because I was the one went up to the first precinct to give the money.

Mr. Liebeler. That was the time Bringuier had gotten into a fight with this man over distributing propaganda leaflets?

Mr. Pena. I didn't see the fight.

Mr. Liebeler. But he told you about it?