Mr. Pena. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you how this fight came about?

Mr. Pena. Some other Cuban, a friend of Bringuier's, one of the Cubans I placed the bond for, came to Bringuier's store—that's what they told me about it, what I hear—and told Bringuier, "Look, Bringuier, there is a man there giving propaganda against the Cuban Society in favor of Castro." So Bringuier came out, but the two men got away, and how they—I don't know what happened, what was the argument, but they got arrested by the policemen.

Mr. Liebeler. That was the time when you put up the bond to get him out?

Mr. Pena. Yes; if that's the same time. I don't know if he got in some other trouble like that a different time. I don't know. I put bond for him one time. I don't know if it was—I don't remember exactly.

Mr. Liebeler. Well, the description of the incident that you have given us about the propaganda sounds very much like the one that occurred on August 9, and the man who was handing out the literature was Oswald, and Bringuier was arrested along with two other men along with Oswald. That would seem to place you here in the United States at that time. We can always check what the procedure is on that visa stamp so we can figure out when you left the United States.

Mr. Pena. You don't need a visa to go to Puerto Rico when you are an American citizen, but the Delta Airlines, if they keep records, can give you the exact date and the hour I left New Orleans to go to San Juan, P.R., last summer. I know it was in August because in August is my birthday.

Mr. Liebeler. You went to Puerto Rico on your birthday?

Mr. Pena. Well, I stay there on my birthday.

Mr. Liebeler. When is your birthday?