Mrs. Paine. On that particular Monday—only once, I think.
Mr. Liebeler. Only one time?
Mrs. Paine. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. Did Marina tell you, after she talked to him that Monday, what the conversation was about?
Mrs. Paine. Yes; she did.
Mr. Liebeler. What did she tell you?
Mrs. Paine. She said—and I believe I have testified to this—that she was clearly upset. You are asking me what she told me of the conversation?
Mr. Liebeler. Yes.
Mrs. Paine. I, of course, could tell that she was upset while talking to him, although I didn't understand much of what she said to him, as I was in the same room. She said that he was living under a different name; was angry that we had tried to call him and she said that this is not the first time she had felt between two fires, and I judge that she meant between a loyalty to him and a feeling that what he was doing was not right.
Mr. Liebeler. Did she say that this wasn't the first time that she felt between two fires, or did she use an expression that "this isn't the first time I felt 22 fires?"