Mrs. Paine. Surely nothing was said in his presence and I am shocked to hear that she discussed it in his presence with other people, which sounds like an attempt simply to injure him rather than an attempt to help the situation that needed help. Now, no doubt my own attitudes affect how a person talks to me. She may have sensed that I was interested in a reconciliation, and their feelings, and would have known that I would not have accepted this, or perhaps not wanted to put it that way with respect to the denouncement of him, but it certainly was not put that way.
Mr. Liebeler. Did she suggest to you that she was not satisfied with her sexual relations with Oswald?
Mrs. Paine. Yes; she did.
Mr. Liebeler. Did she ever tell you anything about the separation that occurred between herself and Oswald in the fall of 1962 in November?
Mrs. Paine. She mentioned that she had once left him.
Mr. Liebeler. Did she tell you any of the details of it?
Mrs. Paine. Probably very few of the details—I didn't know to whom she went. She described him as being ashen and shocked when she actually did walk out and then as pleading with her to come back, after a week, which she did, and that he said everything would be different and that she commented that it wasn't different and that was virtually all that was said about it.
Mr. Liebeler. Did she ever mention George De Mohrenschildt to you?
Mrs. Paine. Well, that's how I met her.
Mr. Liebeler. You know De Mohrenschildt yourself?