Mr. Jenner. Did you see them from time to time thereafter?
Mr. Pic. Yes, I can continue if you wish. Unless you want to stop there and ask me something about it.
Mr. Jenner. Well, at this point, yes, I would like to ask you this: You hadn't seen them from October of 1950 until the summer of 1952. Did you notice any change in him, his overall attitude, his relations with his mother, his demeanor, his feelings towards others, his actions toward others?
Mr. Pic. He was definitely the boss.
Mr. Jenner. Now, tell us on what you base that?
Mr. Pic. I mean if he decided to do something, regardless of what my mother said, he did it. She had no authority whatsoever with him. He had no respect for her at all. He and my wife got along very well together when they were alone, when she wasn't present, she and Lee got along very well. She always reminded me of this.
Mr. Jenner. Your wife reminded you of that?
Mr. Pic. Yes, sir. Without my mother present she could make it with Lee.
Mr. Jenner. But as soon as your mother came within contact with Lee in your home, then the attitude changed?
Mr. Pic. That is correct, sir.