Mr. Jenner. How did he look to you physically as compared with when you had seen him last?
Mr. Pic. I would have never recognized him, sir.
Mr. Jenner. All right. Your brother Robert said something along these lines. You had last seen him in 19—that was prior to this occasion, the last time you had seen him was when he was in New York City?
Mr. Pic. Which was a little over 10 years.
Mr. Jenner. Well, just about 10 years.
Mr. Pic. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Of course you had seen him in February 1953, I think you said.
Mr. Pic. Right. But we walked in and he walked out.
Mr. Jenner. But you saw him?
Mr. Pic. Right, I had seen him for a moment.