Mr. Jenner. He was then at that particular time in the neighborhood of 13 years of age?

Mr. Pic. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Now, when you saw him 10 years later he was 23.

Mr. Pic. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. You noticed, did you, a material change, physically first, let's take his physical appearance?

Mr. Pic. Yes, sir. Physically I noticed that.

Mr. Jenner. What did you notice?

Mr. Pic. He was much thinner than I had remembered him. He didn't have as much hair.

Mr. Jenner. Did that arrest your attention? Was that a material difference? Did that strike you?

Mr. Pic. Yes, sir; it struck me quite profusely.