Mrs. Gibson. Yes. He disliked Russia just like he disliked the United States.
Mr. Jenner. What was your impression of him? Was he looking for utopia?
Mrs. Gibson. I'd say so. He didn't agree with communism and he didn't agree with capitalism. He had his own ideas completely on government.
Mr. Jenner. Would you please call on your recollection and tell us what you recall as to what his beliefs, political beliefs, were, as he expressed them?
Mrs. Gibson. Well, I'd say that his beliefs were more socialistic than anything else. I mean he believed in the perfect government, free of want and need, and free of taxation, free of discrimination, free of any police force, the right to be able to do exactly what he pleased, exactly when he pleased, just total and complete freedom in everything.
Mr. Jenner. Did he talk in terms of any obligation to this so-called perfect state?
Mrs. Gibson. No. Actually I think he believed in no government whatsoever, just a perfect place where people lived happily all together and no religion, nothing of any sort, no ties and no holds to anything except himself.
Mr. Jenner. Did he ever discuss in that connection the necessity for making a contribution to that society; working himself? Or was this a Utopia in which he was to be free to do what he pleased, work or not as he saw fit?
Mrs. Gibson. I really don't know if he planned to work or not. I don't know what Lee wanted to do in life. I think he wanted to be a very important person without putting anything into it at all.
Mr. Jenner. Did you have any impression of resentment on his part?