Mrs. Gibson. He resented any type of authority. He expected to be the highest paid immediately, the best liked, the highest skilled. He resented any people in high places, any people of any authority in government or, oh, in let's say the police force or anything like that, or in your Army, Navy, Marines or whatever he was in.
Mr. Jenner. Were there discussions between your husband and him on these subjects?
Mrs. Gibson. Yes; quite frequently. They argued a lot about it.
Mr. Jenner. Was there any discussion—you say he wanted to be the highest paid, he wanted to be the leader and that sort of thing. Did your husband raise with him any necessity on his part to qualify himself for those positions and that high pay?
Mrs. Gibson. Well, my husband told him you can't be something for nothing. He said you can't expect to get high pay and receive a good position with no education and no ambition, no particular goal, no anything. Well, he just expected a lot for nothing.
Mr. Jenner. You have the impression that he was not an ambitious person, ambitious in the sense of willing to devote himself to an objective and work toward something?
Mrs. Gibson. No; I don't think he knew what he wanted.
Mr. Jenner. As distinguished from just being given to him or falling in his lap?
Mrs. Gibson. No; I don't think he knew what he wanted, and I don't think he was too interested in working toward anything. He expected things to be just given to him on a silver platter. But in his ideas, he was extremely devoted.
Mr. Jenner. He was devoted to his concepts?