Mr. Ryder. It was June 11 in 1960 when I reported to Fort Leonard Wood.
Mr. Liebeler. June what? What was your rank when you went on active duty?
Mr. Ryder. I was just an E-2.
Mr. Liebeler. E-2?
Mr. Ryder. Yes; or private—beginner—actually, I had 3 months actually, National Guard work which waives your time for E-2, three months' period. Of course, there isn't much difference in pay rate.
Mr. Liebeler. It appears that there was a newspaper story that appeared in the Dallas Times Herald on November 28, 1963, and apparently a version of that story was carried in the New York Times on November 29, 1963, which mentions you. Do you recall being interviewed by a reporter from a Dallas newspaper?
Mr. Ryder. After the story was out; yes—before, no.
Mr. Liebeler. What do you mean by that?
Mr. Ryder. Well, the deal is the story came out on Thanksgiving and early that morning the telephone rang—I would say roughly 7:30 or 8, something like that—and I answered the phone and a guy introduced himself and I told him I didn't have any comment and hung up.
Mr. Liebeler. This was a newspaperman?