Mr. Ryder. To tell you the truth, I didn't pay that much attention. I was half asleep because it was a day off. I was going to get some of that extra dozing time, you know, and I just told him I didn't have any comment and hung the phone up and took it off the hook and later on that day, CBS television came out and they were wanting a blownup deal on it to put on television when they found it was opposite which came out in the Times Herald.

Mr. Liebeler. In other words, you were not interviewed as far as you can remember by a newspaper reporter prior to the time the story came out in the Times Herald?

Mr. Ryder. Not as far as I know. I was interviewed by the FBI and Dallas Police Department and I believe a couple Secret Service men came out.

Mr. Liebeler. Which one of those interviewed you first?

Mr. Ryder. The FBI was the first one out.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember what the date was when the FBI first interviewed you?

Mr. Ryder. It was on Monday, the day of the funeral of President Kennedy.

Mr. Liebeler. That would have been November 25. Friday was the 22d, Saturday would be the 23d, Sunday the 24h, Monday the 25th. Do you remember the name of the FBI man?

Mr. Ryder. Mr. Horton.

Mr. Liebeler. Horton [spelling] E-m-o-r-y E. H-o-r-t-o-n?