Mr. Ryder. I didn't get his first name. His last name stuck with me—well, I don't know why; it just stayed there.

Mr. Liebeler. What did Mr. Horton say to you and what did you say to him, to the best of your recollection?

Mr. Ryder. Of course, we were closed on that Monday.

Mr. Liebeler. The Irving Sports Shop was closed?

Mr. Ryder. Right, and he came to the house, so, at that time he showed me pictures of Lee Harvey Oswald and pictures of the gun and asked me about it. I said "Well, the face and the body features of Oswald there was real common in this country." I mean, you know, in this area in Texas and that to say that I had him in the shop, actually, this was after a period of time that we boiled it down to. Oh, I told him I had a ticket with the name Oswald, no date, no address, just for drilling and tapping and boresighting—no address, or name; he didn't say he'd like to see the ticket and was looking at the pictures, then I seen the gun. Of course, from the picture I told him as far as I could remember I told him I hadn't mounted that scope, you know.

Mr. Liebeler. You based that statement that you had not mounted the scope on your recollection that you had not worked on that particular kind of rifle, is that correct?

Mr. Ryder. Right, on this Italian rifle—I never worked on them. I seen them but as far as doing any physical work, I haven't done none even to this date, I haven't worked on any of them.

Mr. Liebeler. You are absolutely sure about that?

Mr. Ryder. I am positive on that, very positive. So, we went up to the Irving Sports Shop and I opened it up and got the ticket and showed him. It was just a little repair ticket actually what it amounted to.

Mr. Liebeler. Did it have a number on it?