Mr. Ryder. Well, like I said, I will take the thing if it boils down to that. Like I say, and I have contended all along, that I did not talk to anybody on Thanksgiving Day, that morning. I didn't talk to anybody. That was my day off.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you have any conversations with any other newspaper reporters—that afternoon, but of course, that day—which you said you wanted to enjoy as your day off, but you did go over to the shop that afternoon and meet the television people, did you not?

Mr. Ryder. Right, that's after the story broke over the radio.

Mr. Liebeler. And in the newspaper?

Mr. Ryder. Yes; and in the newspaper, and then we got with the CBS boys and made the little film that they wanted.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember talking to any newspaper reporters at any time the next day or the day after that about this whole story?

Mr. Ryder. Well, they were all over the place the next day—on Friday—Friday and Saturday.

Mr. Liebeler. But you still take the position that you had nothing to do with the original story that came out and you never talked to the newspaper reporters prior to the time the story came out in The Dallas Times Herald?

Mr. Ryder. Right.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you have any idea where they got the story?