Mr. Ryder. I still don't know—I kind of felt like where they got it was over the radio—originally—I don't know. The CBS boys said that they got it off of the Associated Press wires, is how they got it, or over the AP.

Mr. Liebeler. Now, it is not the ordinary practice, of course, for the Commission to advise witnesses what kind of an investigation it has made in connection with this thing, at least, not until the report comes out, but I think you ought to know that as a result of the existence of this gun ticket and the story that you told the FBI and the Commission, the FBI has attempted to find every Oswald in the whole Dallas and Fort Worth area and the surrounding area and it has found many of them and it has questioned all of them, some of whom have moved out of Dallas and Fort Worth, as to whether or not they ever had any work done in that gunshop, and you should know that none of them ever did, and you should also know, and I think you probably do by now, that Lee Oswald could not have had any scope mounted on the rifle that he used to assassinate the President in your shop, and in fact, I don't think you claim you did mount that particular scope?

Mr. Ryder. That's right. We have claimed that it wasn't that one. On the Monday after, well, it was the Monday of the funeral of President Kennedy, that Mr. Horton came out and I thought at that time I had it cleared with him that I hadn't mounted the scope on the gun he used to assassinate the President.

Mr. Liebeler. That you had not?

Mr. Ryder. That we had not.

Mr. Liebeler. And you weren't able to remember Lee Harvey Oswald's face as being the face of the man who had previously been in that shop; isn't that right?

Mr. Ryder. That's right.

Mr. Liebeler. And you couldn't associate any specific gun or any specific man with that particular work ticket; isn't that right?

Mr. Ryder. Right.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you have any possible suggestions as to where that work ticket could have come from if it appears, and it certainly does appear, that no other Oswald came in there and there is no evidence of any sort to indicate that Lee Harvey Oswald ever had any other rifle than the one he used to assassinate the President, and he never brought that one in the sports shop?