Mr. Schmidt. I am trying to remember that. I just remember the denial clearly on television. I wouldn't swear to Ryder being on the television tape.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember for sure that Ryder denied furnishing any information to a Dallas Times Herald reporter?
Mr. Schmidt. In that interview he denied having done, having mounted a scope on the rifle, and he denied the story in the Times Herald, is what he was doing in essence. And he said he just didn't do it, is what he said on that, or what the story on the television said.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember whether or not he specifically denied having told that story to a Dallas Times Herald reporter?
Mr. Schmidt. No; I don't remember if he specifically said that in essence. I remember the denial being credited to Ryder. As best I can recall now, the denial being credited to Ryder.
He said he denied the story in the Times Herald, that he did thus and so, that he mounted the scope. Now I am trying to remember back from what I saw on that television, because now I understand he has denied to his boss later on.
His boss had talked to our people at the Herald. He denied to his boss later on, and his boss talked to us and said that he denied to him talking to anybody from the Times Herald.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you ever talk to Greener (Ryder's boss) about this?
Mr. Schmidt. Yes, sir.
Mr. Liebeler. Tell us about that.