Mr. Schmidt. On the phone.
Mr. Liebeler. Tell us about that.
Mr. Schmidt. He called. He was very cordial. He called in and he said that—this is after he had talked to somebody else, as I understand it.
Either he called in, or I called him. We got together on the phone, and I told him that I talked to the man Thanksgiving morning and got those facts from him. And he said that the guy denied the story, and that was in essence what was said. I told him I didn't know why he denied it or anything, unless he figured that it might not go over very well with the public.
Mr. Liebeler. Did Greener know about this work that had supposedly been done on Oswald's rifle, when you called him?
Mr. Schmidt. I don't remember discussing that, whether he knew about the work or not. But I remember pointing out the fact that in the denial that I heard on television, that the ticket and the cost and all that wasn't mentioned. And as I have said, I didn't know that much about rifles, and I told the man I couldn't make up that much about it.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember Greener telling you that he was completely unaware of any of the information that was set forth in the article that appeared in the paper on November 28, 1963, until after he had been contacted by a CBS television reporter that afternoon, and that was the first time that he read it? That he, Greener, had learned any of the facts about this whole thing?
Mr. Schmidt. I believe he said something to that in essence.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you ask Greener why Ryder had denied talking to you and giving you the information?
Mr. Schmidt. Did I ask Greener why Ryder denied it?