Mr. Liebeler. Yes; as I understand, the sequence went something like this. You talked to Ryder on Thanksgiving morning, and he gave you all the information and you wrote the story that came out in the paper.
Mr. Schmidt. Right.
Mr. Liebeler. And that night you saw on television a program on which Ryder in general denied ever talking to you, or denied the story that was printed in the paper?
Mr. Schmidt. Right.
Mr. Liebeler. And I understand shortly after that time you called Greener?
Mr. Schmidt. I believe it was the next day.
Mr. Liebeler. You said to Greener, what is going on. Did you ask him why Ryder denied the story that he had previously given you? That is my question now.
Mr. Schmidt. I could have very well. I do remember talking to Greener and telling him that, I am sure, I got the story from Ryder that Thanksgiving morning, and I told him the reasons I thought that it was a factual story because, as I said before, about getting up early on a holiday, and the ticket with the name Oswald on it, and the cost and everything.
Mr. Liebeler. Now did Greener ever tell you that Ryder had told him, Greener, that he had never talked to a reporter from the Dallas Times Herald?
Mr. Schmidt. I believe Greener said that Ryder said that he hadn't talked to anybody, as best I can remember. I think he did.