Mr. Liebeler. Have you ever talked to Ryder at any other time except on the morning of Thanksgiving, November 28, 1963?
Mr. Schmidt. No, sir; I wouldn't know him if he walked in this room now.
Mr. Liebeler. Have you had any other possible source of information for this story? Did you talk to anybody in the Dallas Police Department about it?
Mr. Schmidt. About the mounting; no, sir.
Mr. Liebeler. How about the FBI?
Mr. Schmidt. No, sir; I got all those facts from Ryder.
Mr. Liebeler. You got those facts from Ryder?
Mr. Schmidt. Yes, sir; nowhere else did I get any information. I thought that was getting it from the horse's mouth. If I thought there was anything phony about it, I would have told the city editor about it.
Mr. Liebeler. Had you given consideration to the reason for Ryder denying having talked to you? He denied talking to you, he denied it to the television reporter, and furthermore, he has denied it to me under oath.
Mr. Schmidt. Well, he would have to deny it under oath, but like I say, I wouldn't have any reason to fabricate the story. I didn't get any extra compensation for it. I got paid the same thing if I hadn't gotten the story, if it had been a complete hoax.