Mr. Griffin. Now, when you came into the basement the first time, did you see a TV camera over in this area here that I have pointed to [indicating]?
Mr. Newman. Not a large camera. There may have been a hand-held camera, but no large camera.
Mr. Griffin. What I am indicating on here, so the record will reflect, I am pointing to the area roughly in front of the jail office door. For anyone reading this, I will indicate also that this is an area in which Assistant Chief Batchelor indicated that sometime, that he is not sure of, in the early morning he saw a TV camera there, and he believes he had it moved. Now, I take it you don't recall any equipment of any sort being in this area in here, in the garage [indicating]?
Mr. Newman. TV equipment?
Mr. Griffin. Yes. In the entrance to the garage?
Mr. Newman. No; I don't.
Mr. Griffin. Now, is this a railing, incidentally [indicating]?
Mr. Newman. This is a small rail right here [indicating].
Mr. Griffin. All right. Let me write across here "rail." Now, from where you were standing, were you able to see over that rail?
Mr. Newman. Partially.