Mr. Hubert. Do you know the manager of it?
Sergeant Steele. No, no; I can't recall being in that place more than once or twice.
Mr. Hubert. And the name Ralph Paul doesn't mean anything to you?
Sergeant Steele. No, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Do you know Ruby?
Sergeant Steele. Yes.
Mr. Hubert. How well do you know him?
Sergeant Steele. Through contacts, various contacts when I was a patrolman.
Mr. Hubert. How long had you known him?
Sergeant Steele. Well, I had actually first met him, or heard of, or saw Jack Ruby, I guess, in 1955, about 8 years.