Mr. Hubert. Would you recognize him by sight, do you think, if you saw him?

Sergeant Steele. Yes; I feel like I would, although, it has been several years since I have seen him in person.

Mr. Hubert. Did you have occasion to observe the number of people who were standing in the Main Street ramp part of the basement just at the entrance of the jail corridor? Do you know what I mean? In other words, as you were standing in the basement looking toward Main Street where the jail corridor intersects the ramp——

Sergeant Steele. Right at the corner——

Mr. Hubert. Right at the corner, and looking toward Main Street, did you have occasion to observe how many people were in that area just shortly before the shooting?

Sergeant Steele. Well, 15 minutes would be as close as I could go, and at that time only probably 10 or 12, kind of milling around. Reporters, television people walking back and forth and that sort of thing.

Mr. Hubert. You left the building about 11?

Sergeant Steele. Approximately 11; yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Do you know what kind of car Jack Ruby drives?

Sergeant Steele. No. Years ago seems to me like he had a Buick, but that was years ago when I was a patrolman and it has been over 5 years. I think he had a Buick at that time.