Mr. Vaughn. Yes; I did.

Mr. Hubert. Did you know Jack Ruby at all prior to this occasion?

Mr. Vaughn. Well, I had met Mr. Ruby prior to this time, Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Hubert. How many times would you say?

Mr. Vaughn. I would say two or three times to be at the most.

Mr. Hubert. How long before November 24?

Mr. Vaughn. When I was a rookie in 1959, I met Mr. Ruby while I was working a district out of Oak Lawn and I was more or less being trained at that time, riding with another senior officer and an occasion arose where they had to contact him about a white waitress that he had worked—had worked for him and had been intimate with some colored musicians that he had.

Mr. Hubert. And you met him on that occasion?

Mr. Vaughn. Yes, sir; actually, I was just there. I hadn't—I knew the man.

Mr. Hubert. How long did that interview last?