Mr. Vaughn. Well, now, what do you mean by that?

Mr. Hubert. That's the reasonable doubt test, you see.

Mr. Vaughn. You mean as far as I am concerned—as far as what I think about it, that I definitely do not think the man come down that ramp.

Mr. Hubert. But I was testing the strength of your view.

Mr. Vaughn. Well, I don't quite understand or follow you?

Mr. Hubert. Well, here's what I had in mind—I'll put it this way—do you have the moral conviction that Jack Ruby did not enter the basement through the Main Street ramp to the degree that if that were an issue in a case on which you were a juror, you would say that it is beyond a reasonable doubt that he did not enter that way?

Mr. Vaughn. So far as the knowledge I have of it—no, sir—I do not. I think if the question is that you think I would convict him on the doubt—of the knowledge that I have that he did not enter that ramp—yes, sir, I would.

Mr. Hubert. In other words, you think it is beyond a reasonable doubt, as far as you are concerned?

Mr. Vaughn. As far as I am concerned—yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Do you remember a man who turned out to be a police mechanic?