Mr. Vaughn. I knew he was there—I remember seeing him.
Mr. Hubert. What did he tell you?
Mr. Vaughn. Well, I called him at home—he has a business down in South Dallas, but it wasn't open—that was the day of the President's funeral, and I called him at home and I believe his wife answered the phone, and I asked her if I could speak to him, and so he come to the phone and I told him who I was and I said, "I remember seeing you down there yesterday, and I just want to ask you something." I said, "Do you recall this car—this Lieutenant Pierce's car coming out of the basement?" And he said, "Yes, sure." And, I says, "Well, did you see anybody go down that basement while that car was coming out?" He said, "No, definitely not; there was nobody." And, I told him, I said, "That's the way Ruby said he got in," and I thanked him and left.
Mr. Hubert. Did you ask him whether he saw anybody come by you out to—after the Pierce car had passed through?
Mr. Vaughn. No, sir; I don't recall asking him that.
Mr. Hubert. He didn't tell you in any case that he had seen somebody?
Mr. Vaughn. He said there definitely—he said there was definitely nobody went down that ramp but that car.
Mr. Hubert. Did he tell you that he had ever seen anybody go through?
Mr. Vaughn. No.
Mr. Hubert. Did he deny he had ever seen anybody go through?