Mr. Vaughn. Yes, sir; he said he definitely did not see anybody go through.

Mr. Hubert. And was the conversation such that when he told you that, you understood him to mean at any time whatsoever?

Mr. Vaughn. The only part I was asking him about was the point when that car come out, Mr. Hubert.

Mr. Hubert. In other words, his denial then that he saw anybody come through, you think, because of the nature of the conversation, was limited to whether anybody came through while the Pierce car was going through?

Mr. Vaughn. That was the only part that my intention was to ask him about—was that particular one situation that arose there, because the rest of the time I was in the ramp.

Mr. Hubert. Tell me this, after the conversation and the examination by Fisher and the lie detector test, and so forth, was there any kind of disciplinary action taken against you by the police department?

Mr. Vaughn. No; I had my efficiency cut.

Mr. Hubert. That's one thing I am interested in—tell us about that.

Mr. Vaughn. Well, I got cut four points.

Mr. Hubert. Is that a drastic cut?