Mr. Hubert. Now, I am marking this—Lieutenant Wiggins has marked a spot in the basement area. I am putting a circle around that spot, and connecting it with a line, I am writing "Position of Ruby when seen by Wiggins." Is that correct, sir?
Lieutenant Wiggins. Yes. Now, this spot that I would be—that I would say to be to where I first noticed that—the movement that attracted my attention right there.
Mr. Hubert. All right.
Lieutenant Wiggins. And by the time that I had time to think and look, it was over, but that is approximately the place.
Mr. Hubert. All right. You had known Jack Ruby before this, I understand?
Lieutenant Wiggins. Yes, sir; I have known Jack Ruby for years.
Mr. Hubert. When did you first recognize him?
Lieutenant Wiggins. The first time that I recognized him, who it was was after they brought him into the jail office. He was on the floor still covered, or surrounded by the officers is when they picked him up off the floor and stood him on his feet in the jail.
Mr. Hubert. Did he say anything to you?
Lieutenant Wiggins. I don't recall him saying anything there.