Mr. Archer. While standing there in front of the office, Captain Jones came through with Chief Batchelor, passed in front of us, entered the basement and, as I recall, they stood there and had some conversation. I didn't hear the conversation. Couldn't tell you what it consisted of, but after seeing this talking to Chief Batchelor, Captain Jones came back and said, "I want this corridor kept clear," and at the same time he did, the doors opened up. This was the corridor going into the basement in front of the jail office, "I want the corridors kept clear," and he didn't necessarily order me. He indicated—just said, "I want the corridors kept clear," and that is when I took my station on the north side of the jail door, right where the corridor goes into the basement, and also where the jail door opens into the basement where the automobiles are parked.

Mr. Hubert. Can you tell me about what time it was that you took that station that you just described last?

Mr. Archer. May I—my approximate time—oh, sir, I couldn't give you an exact time from the time that would elapse, I would say approximately 11:05, or 11:08 a.m. Like I say, that is only an approximate——

Mr. Hubert. Let's try to get at it another way. About how long before the shooting did you take that post?

Mr. Archer. I would say at least 15 minutes previous. Prior to the shooting.

Mr. Hubert. Did you leave that position that you have just described in any substantial way? I understand you weren't standing stock still, but substantially, did you remain in that location until the shooting?

Mr. Archer. Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Hubert. I would like you to have a look at this mockup here and at the basement chart which is in conformity with it, and I am identifying this particular basement chart that I am going to ask you to testify about by marking on it, "Dallas, Texas, March 25, 1964. Exhibit 5091. Deposition of Don Ray Archer," is that right?

Mr. Archer. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Now, I am signing my name on it, and for the purpose of identification, I will ask you to put your name below mine.