Mr. Archer. All right, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Now, you—use the mockup first to determine the exact spot that you were standing in at what we'll call your final position.

Mr. Archer. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. In which you were approximately 15 minutes before the shooting. I say, using this mockup, I want you to place yourself wherever you were, and relate it to the map or chart, or draw a circle in the spot at which you were. First of all, show to me on the mockup where you were.

Mr. Archer. I was at this position right here, sir. In other words, this door—this door here [indicating] had it been open—in fact, it was open. I was helping to hold it open. Right on the corner of this particular—it is not exactly a pillar, but just to the corner of that——

Mr. Hubert. If I put a circle right here, would that be the spot you are talking about?

Mr. Archer. Yes; it would.

Mr. Hubert. I am making a circle and drawing a line out, and I am writing, "Position of Archer for about 15 minutes prior to the shooting." I am drawing this circle around that legend, and connecting the circle which marks your position with the circle which describes it, is that correct?

Mr. Archer. Yes; it is as near correct as I can recall.

Mr. Hubert. When the party came out, then the doors swung in to you, is that right?