Mr. Archer. Yes, sir; it is. I am sure—I feel like in my own mind, it was open.
Mr. Hubert. Swung open into the jail area?
Mr. Archer. Swung open into the jail area. In my own mind, as I say, I can't be certain about that point, because I just don't recall.
Mr. Hubert. Well, I suggest to you that if you had—if it did open the other way, it would have kind of boxed you in.
Mr. Archer. I don't believe it did. That is the reason I have it in my mind that it was opened the other way, because I recall no interference from the door whatsoever.
Mr. Hubert. You don't remember being boxed in?
Mr. Archer. I know I wasn't boxed in, no, sir.
Mr. Hubert. Tell us what happened then when the party came down that was transferring Oswald?
Mr. Archer. Well, as they brought Oswald down to the basement, now, the first officer that I saw was Captain Fritz. As he started out the jail office door he stopped and paused, and whether he said something to the detectives with Oswald, I don't know. He didn't—motioned to them like for them to wait a second, like I say, I didn't hear any command or any orders given at that time, and then he proceeded to walk out, and I would say probably at that particular point, took about three paces. Then the detectives started out with Oswald.
Mr. Hubert. Now, as the party moved, they moved away from you, I guess?