Mr. Clardy. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Then, did you go back to your original position?

Mr. Clardy. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. I understand you to say that you stayed there except at the moment of the shooting you were about 3 feet in the direction of Commerce Street from that original basic position?

Mr. Clardy. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert. Can you tell us why you moved 3 feet towards Commerce Street, as you say you did?

Mr. Clardy. The best of my recollection, as they backed the car out, that there was some of the press tried to come in front of the car, and I had to step to my right to watch them, and I stepped to my right and Captain Fritz had come into my view and stepped down to the right and turned slightly to my right, and approximately at that time, I hadn't seen Oswald myself, but approximately at the time I stepped to my right I saw a blur of fast movement and I tried to turn, and heard the shot.

Mr. Hubert. Did you recognize Ruby then?

Mr. Clardy. I had not seen him to recognize him; no, sir. Just all—I was turned, moved to the right, and all I could see was a fast blur of movement.

Mr. Hubert. At any time during this time that you were standing in your original position as marked on the map, or at any time when you went over to see McMillon, or at any time for that matter, whatsoever, did you see Jack Ruby in the crowd?