Mr. Dean. No, sir.
Mr. Griffin. Whether he was there at that time?
Mr. Dean. No, sir.
Mr. Griffin. All right. Now, as the two police cars moved into position on the Commerce Street ramp behind the armored car, what happened, what did you see happen and what did you do?
Mr. Dean. I heard someone say, "Here he comes, they are bringing him out." Of course, you could hear voices, loud voices, or excitement, and then I saw a man just dart in—this was during all the confusion, before the shooting, but I do recall seeing a man dart out. I couldn't tell who he was. It was that fast [witness snaps fingers].
Mr. Griffin. Where did he seem to dart from?
Mr. Dean. From the rail over here. The side—just dart out from a group of people that were standing against the rail facing the exit [indicating].
Mr. Griffin. All right. Can you mark there with an "X" and a circle around it, approximately where he was and how close he was to this railing? Do you think he was right on the railing or [indicating]——
Mr. Dean. Well, the railing—you have a curb there and then I don't recall how wide that curb is, but the railing, you can lean against standing on the ramp itself [indicating].
Mr. Griffin. Yes; how far would you say he was from that railing?