Mr. Dean. I would say he was up against the railing.

Mr. Griffin. Now, is that the man that shot Oswald?

Mr. Dean. Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin. Why don't you put a circle and an "X" down there and write Ruby?

Mr. Dean. [Indicating.]

Mr. Griffin. Now, where was "Blackie" Harrison standing?

Mr. Dean. I didn't recognize—or didn't notice "Blackie" Harrison. I do recall now and I know where he was standing, next to him, from films I have seen since then. However, I didn't even know he was there.

Mr. Griffin. Now, as I understand from your statement, and interrupt me if I am incorrect, when you saw Ruby shoot Oswald, you moved toward the struggle and then Ruby was taken into the jail office, and did you follow them on in?

Mr. Dean. Yes, sir. I ran immediately, jumped over these cars, or one of them, jumped over the hood of it, over the top of it, and they were dragging—Ruby and several detectives that were subduing him were about at the door, or [indicating]——

Mr. Griffin. I had just as soon not have you mark at this point.